Ive been taking a closer look at UFH lately and a thread in the UK forum has reminded me. Just some questions for anyone in NZ really. Ive never had to install this and doubt I ever will now, but was shown late last year once and it doesn't look that hard to install. As long as you have the right cable and know how to set it out. How many of you guys have installed UFH? Does including this aspect to your Repertoire of skills give you a better chance to win a job based on the customer has a one stop tradesman to complete everything. I know they will still need a sparky to connect it up but surely it would be cheaper to get just one person to work all the stages of the total installation without having to depend on another tradesman to come into their home. Can you increase your profit from the job? If so it might be worth considering taking it on. (If anyone wants to discuss the money side if things with this just post your comments here http://www.tilingforum.co.uk/forums/nz-trade-only-area.46/#axzz2CxFUmneM In the NZ Trade only where members only will see these discussions.) The reason I've mentioned the financial benefits is that I believe a lot of work gets taken from you guys by those in other trades simply because it's easier for joe Bloggs to get one tradesman to do the lot and cheaper. For some they do a good job, but many cannot and leave the homeowner with a mess. So how much of the job can you do? Do you offer a comprehensive service from say, gib and underlay fixing, brick substructure, UFH, screeding, waterproofing and tiling? Is there anything else you do? I'm not talking about plastering and painting if you don't feel confident but if it's another skill you do or can acquire, then why not use those skills to earn a better wage. As Tiler myself on the other side of the counter in the store I'm always looking for ways to assist the tradesmen. If I know what you guys need anything special I'll do my best to get it in for you. The same goes for training. If we know that some of you want to learn a different aspect of the trade then we can arrange that by setting up a Trade Demo for a few hours with an expert to get you started. So keep that in mind guys im sure if you approach your local store with a similar request, they will assist you.