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NZ Tilers Forum Expansion Joints, Control Joints And Anti Fracture Membranes.

Discussion in 'NZ Tilers Forum' started by Bob Neary, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. Alan jackson

    Alan jackson Tiling Products Support

    When you say this do you mean failures with substrates or failures with seat belts eeek!
     
  2. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    same with ply evey body giving less and we get the blame
     
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  3. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

  4. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    look very close jay and you will see this is not lattrue movement the only thing that decouplers guarantee up to 3mm. tiles decouple with latral movement not break but it is the floor going down while the other side comes up witch is the main cause of floor here witch no decoupler would handle
     
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  5. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    Correct that is why i posted it

    Control joint can move in both directions
     
  6. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    you are write here but only 2-3mm in one diretion you have movement here going on in two diffrent directions at once a fall of 6-10mm plus greating a donward pushing force of 2-4mm if you bridge this evenly the stress is spread loaded
     
  7. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    But just how far do you bridge it (one tile in both directions or more ) and as you know tiles are getting bigger;)
     
  8. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    1200mm each way
     
  9. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    We talking 600 mm x 600 mm tiles then
     
  10. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    1200mm from join in floor a 2400 x 1200 sheet should do
     
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  11. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    Mind you a tad surprised that the decouple rs only move 3mm // you would nearley get away with a S1 adh
     
  12. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    and the rest of the floor were the sheet finishes and the existing sub continues
     
  13. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    by the way that should give movement between layers of letts say 2400mm 2.4mm a merter given a 10 mm movment bal flex could handle that
     
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  14. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    of cources your write but why would they garntee them for more than the stiky that way they would have to take the blame
     
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  15. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    Ah but here is the catch they don't recommend a modified adh with there product just a normal C1 so they are leaving the door open :)
     
  16. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    you get it .thats why its always our fault .we can go to the moon .why do you think they make so many diffrent stickys when they could make only two .every body makes money out of faluers but us and the client
     
  17. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    True
     
  18. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    Think i found some tyres for AOS van

    first-electric-car.jpg
     
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  19. ray

    ray Superb Contributor

    and look the body fits to bet his tools are in the back
     
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  20. jay

    jay Awesome Contributor

    Crying with laughter here Ray :)

    Right back on track anti fracture membranes or crack suppressors they to can handle up to 3 mm of movement (well the good ones ) were would you use them Ray
     

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