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Hybrid- Ceramic Pads

Discussion in 'Tile Cleaning & Restoration' started by AMA Tiling, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    Has anyone used any Ceramic diamond pads yet? I presume the diamond is suspended in a ceramic matrix as opposed to metal or resin? What are the benefits ,if any,in using ceramic pads? I've seen them on some sites online but with little or no information as to their uses.
     
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  2. ATS Diamond Tools

    ATS Diamond Tools Tiling Product Supplier

    Longevity is their main selling point, but they need to be carefully matched to the product which they're grinding.

    Get the match correct and you could be looking at 1000's sq/m per set.
     
  3. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    Maybe not a polishing product but mid- grit or transition from metals to resin? I'd guess they're fragile as their name suggests? Maybe not ideal for lippage.
     
  4. ATS Diamond Tools

    ATS Diamond Tools Tiling Product Supplier

    That sort of thing, transition or a replacement for metal bonded with the advantage of a finer scratch pattern.

    Think of it as a copper hybrid but longer lasting.
     
  5. ATS Diamond Tools

    ATS Diamond Tools Tiling Product Supplier

  6. ATS Diamond Tools

    ATS Diamond Tools Tiling Product Supplier

    I've just had a look at ceramic pads (pricing) and on average they are around 3x the price of the equivalent copper pads. So you'd expect a minimum performance increase of at least 3x otherwise it's a zero sum purchase.

    You have to expect these kind of products to be aimed at companies that are polishing ikea floors rather than anything remotely domestic, so for the purposes of starting out it's something that can be discounted. However, when you get the call to grind and polish the car park at Wembley Stadium, it's probably worth a look see.;)
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2014
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  7. amir patwa

    amir patwa Serious Contributor

    You may want to look at the Ealing Broadway Shopping Mall floors to appreciate the results achieved by using good quality abrasive pads!
     
  8. Joe @ Hillhead Tiling

    Joe @ Hillhead Tiling Awesome Contributor

    Klindex Supershine Amir?
     
  9. amir patwa

    amir patwa Serious Contributor

    No! Have you tried the diamonds pads we sent to you! For which you kindly donated to the charity!
    Supershine is " like mini cab " always go for limousine ! Ha! Ha, !
    Joe these kinds of pads are promoted by some UK'S restoration gurus who have limited knowhow and cowboys
     
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  10. Joe @ Hillhead Tiling

    Joe @ Hillhead Tiling Awesome Contributor

    Did try them briefly Amir and they are good quality ;) very tough pads.
    I'm getting another base for lotus to take them better too.
     
  11. DavidCarr

    DavidCarr Tiling Forum Admin Staff Member

    Yeah I use ceramics quite often on medium to semi hard concrete floors with great success, avoid on soft floors as they'll disappear before your eyes and they struggle to cut hard floors. I did a test patch the other night for a potential customer using some we've recently manufactured. It's not a ceramic like tile but a mixture of ingredients that are formed together in a ceramic like way, sorry I'm trying not to disclose any secrets ;)

    Copper resin hybrid pads I use a lot too for opening up power floated surfaces where metal tools aren't required or for transitioning from metals to resins.
     
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  12. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    We have enough info now to recreate your secret formula Mr Carr..... You have been most helpful, now we must..... Dispose... Of you ( Maniacal laugh) !!!!!
     
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  13. amir patwa

    amir patwa Serious Contributor

    David Carr advises and suggest about abrasives and methods from years of experience! That can't be copied byChinese manufacturers
     
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  14. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    Unless they kidnap him and torture him until he reveals all his secret formulas, including that of the new improved pro-top...... ;)
     
  15. DavidCarr

    DavidCarr Tiling Forum Admin Staff Member

    I will not be broken :ninja:
     
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  16. amir patwa

    amir patwa Serious Contributor

    He is MORE HONOURABLE ,!
     
  17. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    Indeed Mr Carr, your spirit is indeed to be commended...... But everyone breaks....hahahahahaha !!!!!(more maniacal laughter)
     
  18. Joe @ Hillhead Tiling

    Joe @ Hillhead Tiling Awesome Contributor

    Wads of cash and good cameras needed lads ;)
     
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  19. AMA Tiling

    AMA Tiling Top Notch Contributor

    You too are in danger amir patwa. The oriental diamond magnates are putting a plan in place for your capture as we speak. Your knowledge will be well received deep in the North China wilderness.......
     
  20. Joe @ Hillhead Tiling

    Joe @ Hillhead Tiling Awesome Contributor

    Or the south China sea maybe where the missing plane was took ;)
    Illuminati I'll say no more
     
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